In 1990, an insider gag became softshell canon when a Xenomorph skull from the Alien franchise was plainly visible on the trophy wall of a Predator spaceship.
The tragic part is how much money it made. Granted, people were expecting more than it delivered; you can tell that from the fact that Requiem underperformed compared to it, and it was arguably a better (if not a great) movie. Wolf is still the best developed of the Predators on film. He wasn't there to hunt humans he was there to fix a PROBLEM.
I have to be that guy, but this is one of the trivia facts I know...
~~When editor Randy Stradley realized the Predator skull gag in Predator 2 could actually be turned into canon, he green-lit a crossover. It was the first time two major film monsters met outside of parody—and it worked.~~
Actually the idea for AvP came to the comics first. The crossover had already been greenlit and they were starting to develop and create the comic when the Predator 2 filmmakers heard about it, so the prop guys had the skull prop commissioned for the movie as a fun shout out to it.
That the comic ended up releasing after the movie aired is why everyone believes the movie led to the comics, but BTS testimony has the comics inspiring the movie. (Will post a clip when I can locate it.)
EDIT: Located. The AVP comic came first is mentioned here
It's also brought up in a bonus feature on the R1 Unrated Edition and R2 Extreme Edition DVDs of the 2004 film Alien vs. Predator that I can't find a copy of online yet...
I first got exposed to this through the "novelized" version by Steve Perry, which Dark Horse did for a lot of their comics back in the 90's (including the first three Aliens arcs, which are also great). Even with the Dark Horse logo on the back of the book, it never occurred to me that these were based on comics until I finally read those decades later.
I really enjoyed the first AvP comics. Was disappointed as hell that the first AvP movie was awful.
The tragic part is how much money it made. Granted, people were expecting more than it delivered; you can tell that from the fact that Requiem underperformed compared to it, and it was arguably a better (if not a great) movie. Wolf is still the best developed of the Predators on film. He wasn't there to hunt humans he was there to fix a PROBLEM.
Wolf is still my fave Predator.
And I have a soft spot for Requiem myself.
2nd favorite predator: the original.
3rd would be Ahab from the AVPVP (alien v predator v prometheus) comic that was hunting an Engineer.
Now sometime you should do a game review of Predator: Concrete Jungle. (playstation 2 video game)
Which of the movies are worth watching then? I love both the originals, and simply assumed ALL of the cross overs would be gimmicky money grabs.
Very informative. Thanks.
Once upon a time That Rare Wahmen Whot could... was rare. And usually hand-waviumed with specfic tech.
These days IDNR the first hint of girl-bossery. It reeks.
I have to be that guy, but this is one of the trivia facts I know...
~~When editor Randy Stradley realized the Predator skull gag in Predator 2 could actually be turned into canon, he green-lit a crossover. It was the first time two major film monsters met outside of parody—and it worked.~~
Actually the idea for AvP came to the comics first. The crossover had already been greenlit and they were starting to develop and create the comic when the Predator 2 filmmakers heard about it, so the prop guys had the skull prop commissioned for the movie as a fun shout out to it.
That the comic ended up releasing after the movie aired is why everyone believes the movie led to the comics, but BTS testimony has the comics inspiring the movie. (Will post a clip when I can locate it.)
EDIT: Located. The AVP comic came first is mentioned here
https://youtu.be/Ftz_sff9Yxk?si=0qj7NFv-nDHw1loW&t=180 (timestamped)
Also here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180801221308/http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/the-creator-of-alien-vs-predator-looks-back-on-his-classic-and-his-new-predator-books
It's also brought up in a bonus feature on the R1 Unrated Edition and R2 Extreme Edition DVDs of the 2004 film Alien vs. Predator that I can't find a copy of online yet...
I first got exposed to this through the "novelized" version by Steve Perry, which Dark Horse did for a lot of their comics back in the 90's (including the first three Aliens arcs, which are also great). Even with the Dark Horse logo on the back of the book, it never occurred to me that these were based on comics until I finally read those decades later.